Also available as part of the collection "Old New York: four novellas."
Wednesday, December 30, 2009
Next pick
Also available as part of the collection "Old New York: four novellas."
Monday, December 28, 2009
more short stuff
Point of view
Setting in the mist
The mosaic form
Saturday, December 26, 2009
'Effortless prose'?
This was just one excerpt of praise for Zivkovic I read on Amazon while searching for one of his books to suggest for Short Stuff. May I defer and say that though his writing is clear and straightforward, I thought it lacked a certain elegance I had expected? Don't get me wrong -- I think he's an exceptional storyteller. I just found some of the writing -- especially the dialogue -- a little out of tune at times. I wonder whether this is a matter of the translation. Any thoughts?
Steps Through the Mist
First impressions on "Steps": What did you think? Did it meet, exceed, fall below your expectations? Did it read like a fantasy? (I think I harbor back to days when fantasies included dragons or hobbits or whatnot. This was more like quality literature to me.)
I found myself eager to jump into each "dream" sequence and was surprised by how quickly the stories unfolded.
How did the dream premise work for you as a paranormal element?
Monday, November 30, 2009
When conversations become awkward...
Friday, November 27, 2009
Victuals and Drink
Letter the Seventh -- Edward to Augusta: “Support! What Support will Laura want which she can receive from him?"
"Only those very insignificant ones of Victuals and Drink," (answered she).
"Victuals and Drink! (replied my Husband in a most nobly contemptuous Manner) and dost thou then imagine that there is no other support for an exalted Mind (such as is my Laura's) than the mean and indelicate employment of Eating and Drinking?"
"None that I know of, so efficacious," (returned Augusta).”
Even in Jane Austen’s juvenilia, financial “support” rears its ugly and ubiquitous head! Can you think of any examples in her later works that also contrast romance with finance? Charlotte Lucas comes to mind in Pride and Prejudice…
Thursday, November 26, 2009
Why just the one?
Wednesday, November 25, 2009
A safe age - 50s and over
Letter the First
Isabel to Laura: “You are this day 55. If a woman may ever be said to be in safety from the determined Perseverance of disagreeable Lovers and the cruel Persecutions of obstinate Fathers, surely it must be at such a time of Life.”I love this! What do you think it says about age, especially women’s age, in Regency England?
Tuesday, November 24, 2009
Christy's pick for December: "Steps through the Mist"
This collection of short stories that weave into one is by an author I've heard good things about, Zoran Zivkovic. Here's a description of "Steps Through The Mist" from Publishers Weekly:
"Serbian speculative fictionist Zivkovic's latest novel to be released in the U.S. (after 2006's Seven Touches of Music) isn't so much a literary work to be read as it is one to be reveled in. Like a great work of abstract art, this surrealistic novel—about five women who contend with fate in very different ways—is layered with subtle symbolism and nuance, and should be savored slowly so that the profound, and sometimes disturbing, existential underpinnings can be duly discerned. Featuring story lines about a schoolgirl who can see into other people's dreams, an institutionalized woman with the ability to know the future, a world-weary fortune teller who stumbles across true divination, a skier who's offered unconventional wisdom on a mountaintop and an elderly woman who loses her will to live when her alarm clock breaks, this montage of stories is as enlightening as it is entrancing."
Hope this sounds good for a few dark winter nights!
Monday, November 23, 2009
"I long to know who it is"
She's such a lovely observer of human nature. She must have deeply empathized with every single character she wrote about to be able to make her portraits so convincing.
So this isn't a question, except maybe to ask what scenes made you guys laugh.
The "perfect" heroine
Letter the Third:
"But lovely as I was, the Graces of my Person were the least of my Perfections. Of every accomplishment accustomary to my sex, I was Mistress. When in the Convent, my progress had always exceeded my instructions, my Acquirements had been wonderfull for my age, and I had shortly surpassed my Masters.
In my Mind, every Virtue that could adorn it was centered; it was the Rendez-vous of every good Quality and of every noble sentiment.”
What struck me most about this passage was how much novelists’ portrayals of heroes and heroines have changed! Today every protagonist is rarely if ever self-described, and they never have it so good. Although Austen is obviously parodying the heroines of her time, she raises an interesting point – people often saw the main characters of a novel to be just about perfect, or at least highly skilled and moral. Samuel Richardson's earlier novel, "Pamela," published in 1740, comes to mind.What are the pros/cons of this approach? Conversely, what are the pros/cons of today’s protagonists? Which do you prefer, and why?
Saturday, November 21, 2009
What is love?
Even though it's not a particularly (ahem) serious work, I thought we could treat it as such to get the conversation started...
Letter 7th - "A short Conversation between Augusta and her Brother, which I accidentally overheard, encreased my dislike to her, and convinced me that her Heart was no more formed for the soft ties of Love than for the endearing intercourse of Freindship."
This signals an interesting question, which I've swiped and adapted from The Victorian Web. The question originally referred to Pride and Prejudice, but it could equally apply to Love and Friendship:
"What is Austen's version of love? ... With how much sarcasm does Austen frequently use the phrase "violently in love?" Does love mean happiness to Austen?"
Subsequently, how does love compare and contrast to friendship?
Thursday, October 29, 2009
Some secondaries
And what did you think of Mr. Rappaport, the blind chicken guy who smokes big cigars. What was the purpose of Wilhelm's meeting up with him?
Wednesday, October 21, 2009
Related reading
Yates said this of his book:
"I think I meant it more as an indictment of American life in the 1950s. Because during the Fifties there was a general lust for conformity all over this country, by no means only in the suburbs — a kind of blind, desperate clinging to safety and security at any price, as exemplified politically in the Eisenhower administration and the Joe McCarthy witchhunts. Anyway, a great many Americans were deeply disturbed by all that — felt it to be an outright betrayal of our best and bravest revolutionary spirit — and that was the spirit I tried to embody in the character of April Wheeler. I meant the title to suggest that the revolutionary road of 1776 had come to something very much like a dead end in the Fifties."
Monday, October 19, 2009
Next book - Love and Friendship
You can read it online at a number of places. Here's just one example - http://www.pemberley.com/janeinfo/lovfrend.html
Shall we get started around Nov. 22? And then we may want to take a breather for the holidays.
Saturday, October 17, 2009
$700
I found a Web site with some fun inflation figures, such as:
In 1950 the average cost of a new car was $1,510.00.
In 1950 a new house cost $8,450.00 and by 1959 was $12,400.
In 1950 the average income per year was $3,210.00 and by 1959 was $5,010.00
In 1950 a gallon of gas was 18 cents and by 1959 was 25 cents.
A Chevrolet Corvette cost $3631 in 1958.
A men's all wool suit cost $28.90.
It's your funeral
The head doctor
I thought that was a great description of him, a perfect summary of his appeal. Wilhelm's in a world where no one talks about anything that matters. It's all business and small-talk from sunup to sundown, and here's this guy who talks about suffering ("don't marry suffering," he wisely tells Wilhelm) and seizing the day and living in the here and now and not thinking too much about what others think of you ("I want you to see how some people free themselves from morbid guilt feelings and follow their instincts"). All good advice, more or less. And then he rips him off. And Wilhelm sees it coming, but he's too enmeshed to stand clear. Why?
What's the significance of having a financial adviser be a "psychologist"?
Wilhelm
(I found it interesting that Bellow painted the wife as a heartless power-monger who was making out like a bandit from the marital separation, bringing the hapless husband to financial ruin. I suppose that went on here and there, but overwhelmingly it was women who were financially and socially devastated by divorce in that era ... so, was the wife a monster or merely a realist insisting on her due?)
First impressions
My first thought upon finishing "Seize the Day" is that we have now completed the Triple Crown of Depressing Literature, with "Florida" and "Miss Lonelyhearts" being the Kentucky Derby and Preakness.
Roses all around.
Good grief.
I'm all for truth and suffering in literature, and I certainly don't require a happy ending, but I do have an expectation of a hint, a smattering, a soupçon of joy in the human condition somewhere in the book. Somewhere. Anywhere. In a nook or cranny, in an odd paragraph. Anything to forestall the feeling that a cheese grater is methodically shredding my soul as I read.
Is that too harsh?
Monday, October 12, 2009
Seize the Day with carbonated sugar
(To be fair, there's one scene where he drinks both Coke and coffee, so that made him a pinch more sympathetic)
You guys let me know when you're ready to discuss.
Friday, September 11, 2009
Significant confusion
Speaking of Betty: Her world was not the world and could never include the readers of his column. Her sureness was based on the power to limit experience arbitrarily. Moreover, his confusion was significant, while her order was not.
Tuesday, September 8, 2009
Religion
Funny
Wednesday, September 2, 2009
Kim's pick
Since we have "Miss Lonely Hearts" on deck, I'll go ahead and make the next pick: Saul Bellow's "Seize the Day," a "modern classic" that I've always felt a little remiss in never having read. We can discuss it mid-October. I'd say sooner, but I'm on vacation from end of this month until Oct. 10. How's everyone doing on "Miss Lonely Hearts"?
Tuesday, August 25, 2009
Can you get there from here?
The desert is contrasted several times with the snows of the mid-West. And later we get an unsuccessful vacation to a tropical island. So I was wondering, might we line up the people somehow with the places and make a map of the geography of Alice’s relations?
Monday, August 24, 2009
Plot and insight
Schutt's book seems to have no plot, at least not a plot or storyline that you could readily describe to someone else, the way you could, say, with "Jane Eyre." If I were to describe this story, I'd say it's something like: Girl loses father. Mother is kind of unbalanced. Girl is raised by relatives, grows up, discovers books, has some dysfunctional relationships, including one as an adult with her mother.
The "action" is minimal.
The narrator refers to her lit teacher Mr. Early and says "He loved sound, the way a sentence sounded. Mr. Early did not hang his hat on plot."
Then a few pages later she begins a chapter with "Plot abandoned in favor of insight..." referring to Wordsworth's "Lyrical Ballads." She also refers to Wordsworth's "spots of time" vs. linear narrative. (more lit professor showing through).
Do you think Schutt's own book is meant to be a work of "insights" and "sounds"? And does it succeed, with all of its admitted narrative gaps, on that level?
Sunday, August 23, 2009
Inside
Saturday, August 22, 2009
Jane Eyre references
1) In "Mr. Early," Alice mentions teaching at a small school like Jane Eyre and how she defends Mr. Rochester - "the caped, brooding Rochester, a man as ugly as my own Mr. Early, Rochester, who, in disguise, tested Jane and found her worthy..." Then, too, Mr. Early also has a wife ...
2) The "Little governess" passage in one of the chapters titled "Mother" - "Jane Eyre is a talker of such succinct or impassioned, memorable speech as in, how to avoid the burning pit of hell? 'I must keep in good health, and not die.' "
3) In "Short Identifications," Alice writes, "I was hoping for the discovery of a rich uncle from Madeira." The same uncle that gave Jane her fortune! Except in Jane's case, she wasn't expecting or hoping for it - it just came. And she gave most of it away.
4) How Alice's students don't understand Jane: "Most of them get mad at her or don't care what she does, if only she would get to it. Make a life in the brisk climes, honest and alone, or travel with your lover undercover in warm places, but in less than forty pages, please!" (Wow, how times have changed! Hehe.)
The title
There's a lot of geography covered in the book. The story moves around the upper Midwest, the Southwest, Florida, California and New York (these are the ones I can remember). Why so many locations?
Thursday, August 20, 2009
"Florida"
What did you think of "Florida"? I had mixed feelings about it. I enjoyed Christine Schutt's writing style and was captivated by the early part of the narrative but became less intrigued as the main character aged and became reacquainted with her mother. I'm not sure I understood her trajectory into adulthood, exactly. Any insights?
Tuesday, July 28, 2009
Tuesday, June 2, 2009
Food in "Mango Street"
Monday, June 1, 2009
Florida
Does that sound appealing to everyone? And would the 1st of July be suitable for starting our discussion?
Saturday, May 30, 2009
Sunday, May 24, 2009
Esperanza - what's in a name?
Hi everyone,
Before we start serious discussion of "House on Mango Street," I wanted to get your overall thoughts and impressions. Did you love it/hate it, or fall somewhere in-between? Which was your favorite vignette and why?
That's a general introduction. For a more focused beginning:
“My Name” vignette – “Esperanza” tells us her name means hope in English and sadness in Spanish. “A muddy color.” From the outset of the novella, would you say Esperanza caters more to her English or Spanish definition of her name? Or do you think they're equally balanced?
Looking forward to hearing from you!
Tuesday, April 14, 2009
Next novella
Monday, April 13, 2009
A chill
Also, the first part of the book is called "A Cold Sun," plus there's a literal reference to a March evening where Paolo remarks that he doesn't like to be outdoors after the sun has lost its heat. "I hate a cold sun," he says, and one feels that his words allude also to his aging mistress, whose name unfortunately suggests "stone-cold."
I can't really make out how Williams is using this imagery, because Mrs. Stone really seems, maybe to a fault, the opposite of cold and hard. Any thoughts?
Cocktails and motion pictures
"What a pity they aren't," said the contessa sincerely.
I like how Williams added the "sincerely" here, like we couldn't just assume that she expressed herself sincerely. He had to point out that it was a genuine feeling, not meaningless small talk. The sentiment sort of endeared her to me. Did you have any reaction to it?
Original Negroni Recipe
Ingredients:
- 1 oz gin
- 1 oz Campari
- 3/4 oz Sweet Vermouth
Combine all ingredients in an ice filled shaker. Shake until well chilled and strain into a chilled cocktail glass. Garnish with a burnt orange. To make a burnt orange, cut about a 1 1/2 inch by 1 inch peel off a ripe navel orange. Be sure to get just the skin and as little of the pith as possible. Holding the orange peel between thumb and index fingers with skin facing out, hold a lit match over the glass and with the orange peel about an inch away from the flame squeeze the peel quickly and firmly between your fingers. When done correctly, a burst of flame will come from the oils being released from the peel leaving an aroma and adding a note of orange to the cocktail. Simply drop the twist in the drink.
This Italian concoction was invented in the early 1900s. Mixed with gin, Campari and sweet vermouth, it was named after Camillo Negroni in Florence who always ordered the same cocktail. Today Negroni is often consumed as a pre-dinner cocktail to stimulate the appetite for dinner. Aperitif is a European invention and it came to America in the early 1900s. Campari is also an Italian product, invented by Gaspare Campari in the early 1800s. http://www.cocktailtimes.com/gin/negroni.shtml
Tuesday, April 7, 2009
On film
Would you rather be rich or sexy?
Monday, April 6, 2009
Gender roles
I stumbled upon a book this morning called "Communists, Cowboys and Queers: The Politics of Masculinity in the Work of Arthur Miller and Tennessee Williams." One passage looks at the various instances of gender reversal in "Mrs. Stone," from Meg Bishop to the Baron/Baroness to Mrs. Stone's seduction of her co-star.
You can read the excerpt here.
Sunday, April 5, 2009
The woman-journalist
Friday, April 3, 2009
Tall Dark Stranger
I was also intrigued by Williams blunt sexual descriptions that managed to avoid being either explicit or coy. Only occasionally did they seem awkward like that dome bit. But he did go on at great length in that mode. Was he excessive in the sort of way that KC thought he was in his bird motif descriptions?
Thursday, April 2, 2009
The 800-pound bird in the room
Any thoughts on that? Did you see her as a predatory bird? Is she in any sense more preying than preyed upon?
Mrs. Stone
Did you like her? Did she ever strike you as heroic?
The surrender
(I'll post some questions/observations to get the discussion started, but please jump in with your own posts.)
(Also, going in alphabetical order, the next pick is Leslie's.)
Tuesday, March 3, 2009
Kim's pick
This is a 1950 novella by Tennessee Williams about a fading actress who retires to Rome and hooks up with a young Italian — with passionate, and no doubt unfortunate, results. It should be available at the library, but you can also get it for 99 cents plus shipping on Amazon. Shall we start on April 3?